Ian rides a train of thought through the topics of grapes, climate change, mental math, the AI gaming presidents, and attention spans. Ian and Whitney meet for the first time ever and talk as if they were meeting at a party.

Learn how Whitney won Miss United States, started a career in fighting, and then her career as a musician in this incredible episode.

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Show Notes

00:00 Intro

03:30 Finding fascination in everything 

09:00 What you can control and a song called Being Like This”

13:30 Whitney Miller joins and talks about winning Miss Texas and Miss United States

19:00 How Whitney transitioned into fighting

22:30 Whitney on beginning her career as a singer

32:15 Whitney sings her song “15 of Fame

35:40 Ian asks Whitney about her music taste

38:00 Close